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@Patrol_Omega said:
There is no denial on how fast can they destroy enemy tanks (with very high accuracy, range, and burst damage) compared to PTRs Dot rifles and if you think different, then go and create your own post asking Axis factions to get Ptrs rifles instead of Panzerschrecks due to their no comparison efficiency lol ....

If you would just learn to read you will see that my ENTIRE point accepts that ptrs are the worst AT weapons. I will say it AGAIN for you, all of the ptrs squads make up for that lower effectiveness by having snares available to them.

Penals have sticky satchels, gaurds have button (and are still strong against infantry), conscripts have camo and the AT nade assault. These snares are the reason there is nothing wrong with ptrs. Shreck squads do not have snares

@Patrol_Omega said:
@SkysTheLimit panzerschrecks barely miss so your point is totally pointless

I only brought up ptrs accuracy because you incorrectly suggested they were less accurate than panzershrecks. If you weren't mistaken about your facts, then I wouldn't have brought it up at all.

The durability does somewhat counteract the camo.
The durability makes it frustrating to use
The camo makes it frustrating to play against.. The unit is poorly designed and both those shortcoming should be addressed to make it less annoying on both sides of the rocket.

@Yappir said:
Are you guys crazy?
OKW literally has no AT. Raketenwerfer has damage of single panzershrek rocket. Panzergrenadiers team has twice as much AT firepower as raketenwerfer. It shorter range then pak 40 makes it very hard to use agaist things like centuar or T-70. Also its short range keeps puting it in risk of being stolen by the enemy and used agaist you.

Yeah you can make 3 of them invisible and set a trap. but that reuire like.... 800 manpower spend on just AT department.
Yeah it is invisible and all but again, you risk losing it.

If you are losing as OKW and you have no fuel on tanks of your own. This tinny rocket luncher is only thing you have to defend yourself with and you guys want to take it away.

Uhhh.... No.

u talking about shorter range are u joking? just 5 meters less doesn't even do a difference, and no it doesnt have damage of a single panzershreck your wrong its damage is 160 while panzershreck is 120 ,against centaur really? it can reposition so fast like soooo fast and can reload even faster and track vehicles very fast which atleast well score 2-3 shots into centaur easily , and no one can steal a raketenwerfer , just fall it back press T and its gone in seconds,

only thing AT lol?, i once had a comet,crocodile and a firefly, lost crocodile,comet to 3 raketenwerfers only , even if you smoke it with crocodile Smoke round it can attack ground and hit you, and it got a amazing penetration.so about your 800MP killed about 1000MP and about 400FUEL at ease. and some Use its Camo for recon or attacking or capturing it should be removed
also
OKW have lot of OP AT , sturmpioneers AT, jagdpanzer,panther, and volks panzerfuasts (panzerfusillers AT nade) (FJR fausts) thats all AT i remember.

Been pointed out this for a long time..

fixes

1. Should be unlocked after setting up an truck, reduce the prise to 280MP
2. Make the camo avalible from vet 1. Make it same speed as Soviets at-camo, no reason this unit should be able sprint around the map and provide sight for arty/zero arty or other things, OKW got uncounter skillflares in a commander if you need that.
3. Think that can be left alone thought since it has no green cover for the at-crew.
4. As it stats is for now it should lower the firerate to simulary as Zis and Pak40

thats my thought, OKW and axis in overall has better at with tanks so shouldnt have the most effective at-gun as well that op in many cases..

Pion is not that strong, they are quite danger even to Rifleman when stand next to you. But away from that, if you notice a Pion move close to you, shoot them, they will at least drop 2 models before they get next to you. Even RearEcho able to do it, because Pion model is easy to drop.

Sturmpion is on another hand, I dont think they need to be reworked, just give Okw a Volk as starter unit instead of Sturm, that should work.
I admit I hate that when start game, they bring 2-3 Sturm just charge in without micro skill & force every squad you have to retreat while cheap Kubel behind can cap point fast

Problem:

Both Sturmpioneer Squad and Pioneers must be the most consent unit from the game in March of 2019. Even shooting at them with a squad of Penal batallions (T1 HQ required) while going for a capture point before 2 minutes into the game will result in a retreat for the Soviets.

So .... Starting with submachine guns and having a formidable chance of not getting hit while rushing upfront into enemy territory to fight against the two very first enemy squads (if he gets to have them together) and still winning is still kind of awkard.

Alternative solutions:

1) Increasing the chance of getting hit by 3% for both Axis units ( to stop them from going berserk at the very start of the game) but increasing their close combat damage by 1% so it remains rewarding when FLANKING units (not just rushing upfront without dying with the best high damage weapon at close combat currently out there). Ironic I know.

2) Replacing their submgs with rifles and requiring a tech or other HQ to get the auttomated guns unlocked

3) Give allies tier 0 infantry units submgs without requiring any upgrades, just like Axis Pioneers and Sturmpioneer Squads

All UKF emplacements can scuttle.but refunded related emplacement's vet
VET 0 only refunded 10% menpower
VET 1 refunded 20% menpower and 10% fuel
VET 2 refunded 30%M and 20%F
VET 3 refunded 40%M and 30%F

PAK43 refunded 150/15(42%M and 1/3F)