Volks' Fire Grenade

#1
1 year ago

The thing never even existed. It should be replaced by Molotov since the Germans used them a lot throughout the war. In fact the Finnish people, who were allied with the Germans, invented them in around the beginning of the war and the Russians only later stole the idea.

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  • #2
    1 year ago
    BaálthazorBaálthazor The shoreline by the river Styx.Posts: 1,008

    @captainjordy said:
    The thing never even existed. It should be replaced by Molotov since the Germans used them a lot throughout the war. In fact the Finnish people, who were allied with the Germans, invented them in around the beginning of the war and the Russians only later stole the idea.

    Mmm, yeah, no.
    Im a bit of a historical buff as it where and that's not really what happened.

    1)
    In fact, the finnish people "invented"(and I use this term lightly since there has been numerous other reports of people using such an incendirary device earlier on), in the war against the Sovietunion.
    The Sovietunion attacked Finland, but was not willing to give credit in the world press, resulting in the Soviet foreign minister(Last name Molotov), to declare that the Soviet union was not at war with Finland.
    The bombs dropped on Finland during this time was described by the Soviets(and in particular by Molotov) as first aid gifts and the likes, despite the fact that everyone could see that the soviet planes were dropping bombs, not gifts"..!
    Thus the soviet "gifts" were described by the finns as "Molotov water gifts or Molotov Cocktails" by the finnish!
    Because of the Big Press involved on the fiendish and un-provocked attack on Finland by the Sovietunion in 1939 and the subseqvent brutal finnish resistance against impossible odds, the so-called soviet "relief packages", where dubbed "Molotov Cacktails" henceforth..!

  • #3
    1 year ago
    BaálthazorBaálthazor The shoreline by the river Styx.Posts: 1,008

    @captainjordy
    And the finnish where never formally allied with the nazi's btw.
    They simply elected to fight alongside the side that did not threaten their immidiate borders... A reasonble choice all things considering...
    Please read up a bit more on your history lessons before you pass judgement on an entire people, without knowing the actual facts..!

  • #4
    1 year ago
    captainjordycaptainjo… Posts: 498

    What "judgments"? First off, how does "fighting alongside" not pretty much mean allied with, and the Finns still did technically invent the Molotov, just wasn't called the "Molotov". And how does this have anything to do with the M24 fire grenade? This wasn't an argument about Finns and their relationship with Nazi Germany.

  • #5
    1 year ago
    comrade_daelincomrade_d… Posts: 2,948

    It's pretty much molotov without the word.

  • #6
    1 year ago
    TheWiseTheWise Posts: 54
    edited August 2016

    Really, the incendiary bottles were invented by Finns as a makeshift anti-tank mean. What the Soviets did - is refining them to the near-perfect state: the latest version - so-called "KS" bottles - were self-igniting on impact (and, BTW, faster to throw, than any normal grenade due to the absense of the safety pin). On the other hand - they were never used as an anti-personnel weapon, being rather some kind of "3 in 1" - incendiary mean, makeshift smoke grenade and anti-tank weapon - instead.
    As for "M24 incendiary grenade" - it really never existed.

    P.S. Played around a bit with making the "proper Molotov" in my yet unreleased mod (working title "Death or Glory") - succeeded in it (though not from the first attempt). Thus - there are chances to see it in the game.

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