M4 Firefly Vs. King Tiger

#1
3 months ago
The Big Red 1The Big R… Daly City, CA, USAPosts: 628

i always hear that the Fireflies could successfully knock out tigers and panthers with their 17 pounder gun but what about king tigers? how come i have not heard of those?

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  • #2
    3 months ago

    @The Big Red 1 said:
    i always hear that the Fireflies could successfully knock out tigers and panthers with their 17 pounder gun but what about king tigers? how come i have not heard of those?

    Let's say - the Fireflies were the only more or less mass-produced western Allies' tank which could fight Tigers and Panthers with decent chances for success. As for King Tigers - these fought mostly on the Eastern Front, versus Soviet Army. And were severely beaten there - firstly by T-34/85 (for justice sake - from the ambush) and IS-2 (in direct standoff) at Sandomyr bridgehead, then by heavy TDs (ISU-122, ISU-152 and SU-100) and heavy AT guns (BS-3) near the Balaton lake.

  • #3
    3 months ago

    Historically speaking, the sabot round fired by the 17 pdr was very innaccurate. If it hit something, it was effective. The high velocity, combined with the sabot made for some real slop as the sabot came off and imparted its own effects.

  • #4
    3 months ago
    BaálthazorBaálthazor The shoreline by the river Styx.Posts: 878
    The Firefly has well-documented accords of engaging(and defeating) Tiger 1's and Panthers, but since King Tigers(or rather Bengal Tigers, which was the accurate translation of the German name for it) was only really deployed enmassed during the Battle of the Bulge and really only used piecemeal after that, it's hard to salvage accounts of Fireflys engaging Tiger 2's.

    Though for arguments sake, I can refer you to the documentary "The Tiger Files" produced in cooperation by Bovinton Tank Museum in Great Britain, which describes the Tiger 1 in details, also relating many precious facts about the Firefly if one is so interested. :)

    Nothing about the Firefly vs King Tiger though, for the reason explained above...
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