[SOV/ALL] Conscript 7th men

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  • #32
    1 year ago
    PrincessBubblegumPrincessB… Posts: 110
    edited April 2019

    "OKW infantry unit micro is easier than USF, here is a screenshot from 4v4. Conscripts should have a maxim LMG upgrade like sentinet in BF1 because axis are OP. Sry, didn't mean to discuss".

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  • #33
    1 year ago
    C3ToothC3Tooth Posts: 900

    Im not good at 1v1 or head on fight, my play style is to support team mate & flank. I mostly play 2v2 with a friend or 3v3 4v4.




  • #34
    1 year ago

    What fo you want to tell with those screenshots?
    We all see, that u r mostly played on side of allies and if that is true you completely do not understand faction weaknesses, so u judge the game balance from weak positions of your game experience. Shall i say that your points then are completely irrelevant or it is written already between the strings?

  • #35
    1 year ago
    C3ToothC3Tooth Posts: 900
    edited April 2019

    I enjoy seeing people who plays both side discuss on the balance, I believe those are fair suggestion.
    I said my ideas might be wrong, since I lack of game play from Axis side, though I never try to bias on Allies.

    My discussing was trying to stop the Axis bias from a few players, which was always pointless, so I stop discussing. Here are some of it

    i dont think flame HT is good now. Instead KV8 flames are better and it has great armor
    Putting flames on something like kv8 with its armor and hp values, needs to be re-consider now that it can be build more than once.
    Puma need much micro, T70 doesnt
    Churchill speed is greater than Panzer4
    UC micro knows to retreat when they see shrek pg
    In general, i propose a +20% ra buff to all non-doc infantry and support teams for Wer.
    T70 is too cheap, luch is too bad specialist. Except puma is doctrine, and puma commanders are not as good.
    Everytime I use Panther to fight Churchill, its always supported by ATguns

    Now tell me which line I suggest is Allies bias?

  • #36
    1 year ago

    You completely ignore the fact of complete infantry supremacy and utility on every allied faction and try to prove demand of any allied infantry buff, especially consripts.
    If you trying to tell everyone that OKW has better and harder to counter infantry roaster than USF/Soviet you r just unskilled or you r trying to do what you call "biasing allies" or whatever.

  • #37
    1 year ago
    C3ToothC3Tooth Posts: 900
    edited April 2019

    Im sorry?
    I suggested Riflemen able to get a single Bar, and Tommy able to upgrade either 1 more men or 1 more Bren, buff Gren LMG42 up IS DEMAND ALLIES FOR A BUFF?

    Volk is still weaker vs Riflemen & Tommy (Tommy should be the best at the fat Tommy is the only core infantry beside Sapper). Though they still have their own pros.

    • Volk vs Cons is a clear dominant.
  • #38
    1 year ago
    PrincessBubblegumPrincessB… Posts: 110
    edited April 2019

    Just look at your post with screen on steppes where volks are standing against usf infantry.
    What about cons? After last cons buff they are perfect easily spammable unit with great utility..
    Cons perfectly fit into the line even without weapon upgrades and their plave in late game should be near the enemy tank or graveyard. Soviets have plenty of opportunities to fit another infantry unit into late game and those are completely superior if compare to their axis counterparts.
    This buff is completely unnesessary.

  • #39
    1 year ago
    > @PrincessBubblegum said:
    > Just look at your post with screen on steppes where volks are standing against usf infantry.
    > What about cons? After last cons buff they are perfect easily spammable unit with great utility..
    > Cons perfectly fit into the line even without weapon upgrades and their plave in late game should be near the enemy tank or graveyard. Soviets have plenty of opportunities to fit another infantry unit into late game and those are completely superior if compare to their axis counterparts.
    > This buff is completely unnesessary.

    So your point is that Soviet have doctrinal elite infantry so con should be crap.
    Consider that above is OK, Next time someone talking about grenades' survivability is bad for being 4 man, i will suggest them go use assault grenadier, cause they have 5 man thought.
  • #40
    1 year ago
    C3ToothC3Tooth Posts: 900

    We dont know the out come between blob of 5men volk stg44 & blob of 7men cons. Only after the patch is out.

    Currently Cons is barely on the field because they're too weak.
    Buff Cons and once again Gren will become the weakest core infantry.
    The unbalance lied on West core infantry. Tommy is the best core(I repeat:they should be the best core because Brit has no other infantry non-doc beside Engineer).

    I do believe the only way is to close the gaps between Riflemen & Gren (by limit Bar grab by 1, buff LMG42 and gain its price). So that Cons has the right for the 7th men.

  • #41
    1 year ago
    KatitofKatitof Posts: 6,681

    @PrincessBubblegum said:
    Just look at your post with screen on steppes where volks are standing against usf infantry.
    What about cons? After last cons buff they are perfect easily spammable unit with great utility..
    Cons perfectly fit into the line even without weapon upgrades and their plave in late game should be near the enemy tank or graveyard. Soviets have plenty of opportunities to fit another infantry unit into late game and those are completely superior if compare to their axis counterparts.
    This buff is completely unnesessary.

    Splendid logic!
    Lets remove recent buff to ostwind and PGs, because you have grens and brummbar already.

  • #42
    1 year ago

    @Katitof написал:

    @PrincessBubblegum said:
    Just look at your post with screen on steppes where volks are standing against usf infantry.
    What about cons? After last cons buff they are perfect easily spammable unit with great utility..
    Cons perfectly fit into the line even without weapon upgrades and their plave in late game should be near the enemy tank or graveyard. Soviets have plenty of opportunities to fit another infantry unit into late game and those are completely superior if compare to their axis counterparts.
    This buff is completely unnesessary.

    Splendid logic!
    Lets remove recent buff to ostwind and PGs, because you have grens and brummbar already.

    Ostwind and PG are not performing well while conscripts are performing. I don't get your joke.

  • #43
    1 year ago
    SimpleSimonSimpleSim… Posts: 73
    edited April 2019

    Conscripts perform very well when an Axis player lets them.

    If you're playing against Soviets and you fail to match Conscripts on a near 1:1 basis with MG42s or Volksgrenadiers you're doing it wrong. A seventh man won't change that.

  • #44
    1 year ago

    @SimpleSimon написал:
    Conscripts perform very well when an Axis player lets them.

    If you're playing against Soviets and you fail to match Conscripts on a near 1:1 basis with MG42s or Volksgrenadiers you're doing it wrong. A seventh man won't change that.

    You can tell the same about HMG42.
    My starting HMG performs badly without support or investments. HMG42 spam works only when allied players allow it to work.
    Buff my HMG42 pls. 5th man, accuracy and range.

  • #45
    1 year ago
    KatitofKatitof Posts: 6,681

    @PrincessBubblegum said:

    @Katitof написал:

    @PrincessBubblegum said:
    Just look at your post with screen on steppes where volks are standing against usf infantry.
    What about cons? After last cons buff they are perfect easily spammable unit with great utility..
    Cons perfectly fit into the line even without weapon upgrades and their plave in late game should be near the enemy tank or graveyard. Soviets have plenty of opportunities to fit another infantry unit into late game and those are completely superior if compare to their axis counterparts.
    This buff is completely unnesessary.

    Splendid logic!
    Lets remove recent buff to ostwind and PGs, because you have grens and brummbar already.

    Ostwind and PG are not performing well while conscripts are performing. I don't get your joke.

    And that's how you spot someone who never played the game outside of soviet campaign.

  • #46
    1 year ago
    SimpleSimonSimpleSim… Posts: 73
    edited April 2019

    @PrincessBubblegum said:

    @SimpleSimon написал:
    Conscripts perform very well when an Axis player lets them.

    If you're playing against Soviets and you fail to match Conscripts on a near 1:1 basis with MG42s or Volksgrenadiers you're doing it wrong. A seventh man won't change that.

    You can tell the same about HMG42.
    My starting HMG performs badly without support or investments. HMG42 spam works only when allied players allow it to work.
    Buff my HMG42 pls. 5th man, accuracy and range.

    Idk baby sounds like a L2P problem to me. Way I see it you're doing it wrong if you're trying to match a Soviet player with equivalent units (rifles vs rifles, HMGs vs HMGs, mortars vs mortars, tanks vs tanks etc) in all cases the Soviet player will just wear you down until you're conceding supply or VPs or you're sending out depleted units. A perceptive Soviet player will see you need to invest 180mp + muni for a medical bunker before you can do anything else or send out units dancing precariously close to easy wipes. A 5th man in your HMG squads does nothing for them. Hell if the developers took MG42 squads down to 3 men or even 2 that wouldn't substantially alter how to play with or against them. If they're getting flanked you need more of them or need to retreat sooner. If they're getting ground away by Maxims you need mortars and smoke and/or flank attacks but never, ever try to defeat peer Soviet units by simply slugging it out with them. You're just playing into his hands.

  • #47
    1 year ago
    PrincessBubblegumPrincessB… Posts: 110
    edited April 2019

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