Commander Update Beta 2021 - AEF Feedback

#1
1 week ago
JohnT_REJohnT_RE CanadaPosts: 19 admin

Please post all feedback from the Commander Update beta for the AEF faction here.

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  • #2
    1 week ago
    GoforGiantsV3GoforGian… Posts: 28
    edited April 1
    Reserve Armor Must not lost its 75mm Dozer Blade.

    Mechanized Company is a company without any Super Weapon. But using large Various medium and light units Combination.
    And Dozer blade Is good enough but not Overpowered. 76mm sherman and Dozered 75mm sherman can be a good combination, Useful but not OP, and the WC51 'Dodge' is Heavily nerfed at Last patch. Lost of Dozer blade will make Mechanized won't be used by anyone.

    And Mechanized Company's Reserve armor makes to use various units. Reserve Armor totally Follows the patch teams Wills.
    Use less Jackson, M8A1. And the USF armor's Main character as Sherman.

    You know. Sherman is Usable but not match against Pz4 Over Vet2. But Dozered 75mm Sherman and 76mm Sherman can fight evenly against Skirted Panzer 4.

    76mm Sherman can fight with higher DPS or High Penetration HVAP. And 75mm shermans with Dozer can fight with 5 shot HP(640+80) and Better Armor 'Lower' than Skirted Panzer 4(216/108, Panzer 4 at V2 have 234/117). And costs 390MP 130F, Slighty Expensive than Panzer 4.

    I want Mechanized Company's Various unit Lineups get preserved. And Dozer blade and Reserve armor is not OP at all.




    And I think Armor Company's M10 'Wolverine' have to be buffed.
    Its Tagret size is X22 now. But originally it had Lower size than sherman.
    I think M10's Target size should be buffed to X18~X20.

    Caliope's Durablity Nerf is Wrong.
    320HP 110Armor is clearly Overgone.
    It is the Dullest Mobile Artillery. Easily chased by even Brumbar.
    If you Really going to Nerf Caliope. Do not touch its Armor and buff its mobility over 5.4

    Pershing's Max speed 10% buff at V2 can be increased to 15~20%. And Recive reduce damage can be 20% as same as KV-1.

    And how about the pathfinders sight range Bulletin goes.
    At now. Pathfinders sight range is 50 and when bulletined. 52.5

    If team make that nerf, maybe the team clearly make error to them, maybe You will give 'Pathfinder squad' buff as +5 sight range passive.
    Then Pathfinder's bulletin reduces 2.5 to 2.25 sight.
    I hope that won't be reduced.
    And also. If that nerf goes. Jaeger Light Infantry must have same nerf.
  • #3
    1 week ago
    ProtosAngelusProtosAng… Posts: 15

    The Rifle Company is still useless since the buffs on CP and E8 are quasi at best. E8 is definitely not worth that price tag. Unless you know you'll be going against P4's only, then yes, E8 can be viable. It can also be viable in 1v1 with the agility buffs. However, in 2v2+, where there are multiple Panthers/Brummbars/Heavy tanks, I highly doubt anyone would pick an E8 over Jackson. The Flamer on REs is also a quasi buff, and an obvious trap. Anyone who gets a flamer on the REs will suffer sooner or later when the armour starts rolling out.

    Calliope nerf is also overboard. It's quite useless on long range barrages (hence the need for shotgunning) and with such low armour and a 2 hit requirement, you will need to micro the hell out of the calliope and ATs to stop any sort of P4 dive. Even more so if the P4 has the blitz. Calliope needed a nerf in the armour department only, not the HP and armour. For the price and timing, why even go for it if you know you need to pay extra care with it.

    M8 greyhound change is laughable. Still a useless unit.

    Rangers change. Need testing. Doubt it matters. For a 10 pop squad, you really need to give them 3 zooks to make them useful. Even 2 super zooks don't scare off anything heavier than a Puma. Don't think they need any buffs/nerfs

    RE granade launcher. Laughable before the nerf. I don't think I've ever seen anyone get actually damaged by the 3s fuse coupled with the fly-time. To upgrade REs with a nade launcher only to constantly have them launch it is really laughable. Don't know who proposed that change, but try to play 2v2 or 3v3 with one RE nade launcher and tell me if you will constantly shift to them to use the launcher. 15s cooldown no less xD ----> I really don't know which brainiac made that change.

    Dozer blade: If you say so. Never found it toxic to play with or against. But could be I guess.

    Pershing. Shaving off a couple of seconds of repair time will not make it any better. If you buff the armour to 280 or 290 and give veterancy a 15 or 20% buff to speed, then maybe. Right now, every AT axis has can easily fend off the Pershing and maps in 3v3 are not really designed around flanking since most are pretty lane-y. Hence, you want a KT or Ele or Jagd or ISU152. Something that has range and frontal armour and HP. Pershing has none of those. It only has a good AI cannon and good penetration with a slow ROF.

    Rest of the buffs/nerfs are also quasi at best. Nothing substantial, only to give the article that extra word or two, to make it seem more important and give a sense of a large update.

  • #4
    1 week ago

    The **Pershings **cost-effectiveness is very low, you pay for a heavy tank and get a worse Panther. No experienced player will use this tank in combat. It is compared to other heavy tanks in the game, the worst behind the IS-2. Historically this tank would have outmatched a panther and even a tiger I. Decreasing its health is just no change. To encourage the use of it, i suggest something different. Give it the ability to decrew, like any other usf-tank. So the repair change is not needed and no RE build will be necessary, only to repair the Pershing. Furthermore improve its frontal armor and slightly its sides, to be better than the Tiger I, so it bounces more shots from the front and AT shots as well. This will balance itself, because you just need to use german speed, like the Panther or Pz4, or just an anti-tank squad to damage it massively from behind. This would give the commander the ability to breakthrough, which is always a necessary ability, and requires good micromanagement, so that the Pershing survives. Generally spoken, heavy tanks need to be able to resist a lot of frontal attacks to allow other units to survive. The USF generally lacks heavy armor in the late game, the Pershing in its current state cannot compensate this by any means.

    Pathfinder change is very good, because it counters the lack of a single USF sniper.
    The RE rifle grenade change is useless, because only unexperienced players were unable to dodge it. Furthermore compared to the wehrmacht Grenadier ability this is just no match. It does barely kill when it hits and still it has a timer to explode, which makes it relatively useless in the beginning.

    The M8 Greyhound is useless and adjusting his useless ability does not help. Maybe you should consider making this a vehicle between the SdKfz 221/222 and Luchs. This could be usefull as infantry counter, the ability itself does not provide enough to make it cost-effective.

    The Sherman Calliope is usefull in its current state. Removing its amor and health will make it less cost-effective and not comparable with Stuka-Halftrack and Raketenwerfer. Both of Axis Rockets can easily kill many units, while driving in and out very quickly. To give Allies a similar ability it is necessary for it to survive better, because it is also slower and a bigger target.

    I like the idea of improving the Sherman E8, but on large scale combat, it is still no match for a Panther, which is necessary for it to be a viable option. Maybe an increase of frontal armor would support its breakthrough ability and encourage the use of a more risky, but rewarding experience, when successfully executed.****

  • #5
    1 week ago
    Aiborne82Aiborne82 Posts: 21

    I don't understand why the US are receiving a nerf to the Calliope. There is no reason to reduce a tank to the durability of a truck. It costs twice as much as the German non doctrinal counterparts. It makes no sense why a slower vehicle is being made easier to kill. I also don't understand why we are increasing a USF players micro. The Rifle grenades are extemely easy to dodge and honestly dont do a ton of damage either. You folks have already made the USF micro ridiculous compared to any other faction with the 75mm howitzer and the M8 Scott. I just dont quite get why it should be so much more difficult for a USF player to have to pay attention to half of his assets and honestly learn the hotkeys to be good at it, where as every other faction in the game does not have this disadvantage. Also the Rangers have a No key description right now. The Pershing still continuing to be worse than a panther is absolutely ridiculous as well at its current price.

  • #6
    1 week ago
    GaInGaIn Posts: 26

    I think giving the Pershing a damage reduction stat in order to speed up its repairs is very confusing and not elegant game design. I would suggest simply improving the Rear Echelon repair speed a bit. This could be tied to the mine sweeper upgrade like it is for other factions.

  • #7
    1 week ago
    VipperVipper Posts: 3,747
    edited April 6

    AEF

    240mm Barrage

    First the ability is designed as area denial:

    "We have increased the number of shells while decreasing the delay between shots to make this ability more potent at area denial. Damage has been modified to prevent instant kills on infantry while retaining high damage at the edges of the shell’s AOE."

    Now are adding anti structure capability. This a step in the wrong direction.

    In addition the ability cost only 25 munition more and gets 7 shell instead the 3 Gustav gets.

    The ability also has extremely low friendly fire modifiers allowing troops to attack trough it.

    Suggestions:

    Remove lower scatter shot
    Lower cost to 200
    Swap with TOT.
    Increase friendly damage

    Infantry commander will get an ability commander more suited to theme, Armor commander will be able to counter static targets like Pak/LeFH

    IR Pathfinder Barrage

    The is available to early for its power level.

    Suggestions:

    Replace it with a mortar barrage similar to Ostheer officer move to vet 1.

    M4A3 Sherman 105mm Dozer

    The unit has no reason to be a call-in . Still compares unfavorable to 75mm Dozer

    Suggestions:

    keep the CP but make it build able from T4.
    Change the auto to match other tanks:
    Increase projectile speed/range to 40/AOE at 75mm HE rounds
    keep barrage

    Unit now is better vs heavily armor tank due to armor/deflection damage

    M4A3 Sherman Calliope

    At this point one should consider putting a limit to caliope at 1(2?)

    Mortar Half-Track WP Shells

    WP barrage is very powerful forces retreat and long healing time. Greatly increase CD on the ability

    Pathfinders (All Variants)

    The unit should be vulnerable to CQB while it should not be unit that is spammable. The is no indication for the critical kill property of the weapon

    Suggestions:

    Cost to 240
    Carbines replaced by M1 units a different profile stronger long ranger weaker close
    Critical kill now a timed ability

    Rangers

    The unit has has no reason for 3 weapon slot. The weapon change will also allow the unit to transition from AI to AT as the progress with getting an addition bazooka from 1-3 at the game progress.

    Suggestions:

    Reduce slots to 2
    Elite bazookas now an upgrade and does not apply to rack weapons (or they can no longer get rack bazookas)

    Rear Echelon Rifle Grenades

    The ability is better suited for riflemen

    Suggestions:

    Ability moved to rifle company
    Ability now available to riflemen instead

    Rifle Company Advanced Infantry Gear

    The ability overlap with assault engineer.

    Suggestions:

    Scrap the ability add assault engineers where needed

  • #8
    1 week ago
    Arcturus64Arcturus64 Posts: 5

    There's probably a bug that counts de-crewing and re-crewing as creating a new unit because 95% efficiency on a single stuart with those kinds of damages is a bit odd especially since those are close to the sherman's and it got 218% despite costing more 0

  • #9
    1 week ago
    VipperVipper Posts: 3,747

    76mm Sherman

    The unit is very strong and has abnormally high vet bonuses for a Sherman tank.

    Suggestions:
    Pop to 13-14 a pop of 12 it too low
    Increase XP value to be higher than standard Sherman
    Change the vet bonus to Sherman replacing the accuracy bonus with a penetration bonus

    Advanced Infantry Equipment

    The ability does not really help riflemen.

    Suggestions:
    Remove flamer and flare
    Ability know allows riflemen to upgrade with:
    Garand C taking up 1 slot that are more accurate at long range.
    M9 A1 bazookas with better accuracy and slight increase in penetration

    Airdropped Combat Group

    The ability overlap with Paras commander

    Suggestions:
    Scarp the ability. Ability know replaced by AT Paras
    Lower the MP price by 20 possibly CP by 1.
    Unit now comes with smaller target size and 6 garands C
    Can upgrade with 2 elite bazookas
    Fix camo currently they are some times revealed without firing

    Assault Engineers

    Suggestions:
    Lower reinforcement cost
    scrap destroy cover
    explosives always visible now at 30 cost

    Cluster Bombs

    The ability is superior to similar abilities

    Suggestions:
    add 1-2 CP and 20-30 MU

    Elite Vehicle Crews

    Suggestions:
    Scrap vet and Thompson
    Vehicles now can gain extra vet level.

    IR Pathfinders

    Since aggressive airdrops are worth it and unit over laps it should be scraped.

    Suggestions:
    Unite removed and replaced "observation kit"
    Riflemen now have "pyrotechnic" type upgrade gaining +5 sight +5 in cover and able to call mortar barrage.
    Weapon upgrade to M1 C and can now fire flares.

    M10 Wolverine

    Suggestions:
    Improve base turret rotation lower vet bonus
    Replace HAVP round with defensive smoke

    M1919

    Suggestions:
    Now an upgrade for RE and Riflemen instead of rack weapon, M1 C can become the rack weapon.
    Now take all weapons slots.

    M4A3 Assault Package

    Suggestions:
    Remove from the game
    Replace either with WP rounds for Sherman and Scott or with 75mm Dozer.

    M7 Priest

    Fix the CD on creeping barrage/barrage CD. It allows the unit to fire more often.

    M8 Greyhound

    Suggestions:
    offer as an upgrade to m20 the unit would refitted moved out of the map and replaced by the M8
    for a cost

    Mechanized Groups (WC-51 & M3 Halftrack)

    Suggestions:
    Make m3 an upgrade to WC-51 unit is refitted moved out of the map and replaced by the M3
    Remove the barrage from WC-51

    Mortar HT

    Suggestions:
    Increase the CD of WP and Timed and/or move WP to vet 1 and remove timed delay

    P-47 Rocket Strike

    Suggestions:
    add two extra weapon on planes with 1 salvo with high accuracy so that ability deliver some damage consistently

    Paratroopers

    Suggestions:
    increase CD on suppression fire
    possibly remove elite Bazookas for less overlap with Support paras.

    Pathfinders

    Suggestions:
    experiment with CP 1 as an infiltration unit set up beacon for future drops.

    Riflemen Field Defenses

    Suggestions:
    renamed Field Defenses
    Riflemen can build fighting position and wire
    RE can build mines/sandbags and gain 10% construction speed

    Urban Assault Kits

    Suggestions:
    Riflemen now get the fire up ability and the incendiary grenades (with reduces range/cost)

  • #10
    1 week ago
    VipperVipper Posts: 3,747
    edited April 4

    Changes to commander to better fit the theme:

    Airborne Company

    Pathfinders
    M2HB Paradrop merged into one ability now droped from beacons
    Paratroopers
    M1 ATG Paradrop replace by a Bombing plane similar to IL-2 bombing
    P-47 Rocket Strike

    Armor Company

    Assault Engineers
    Elite Vehicle Crews replaced by an ability giving "war speed" bonus to vehicles
    M10 Wolverine replaced by Easy 8
    105mm Dozer Sherman replaced by WC-51 similar to Ostheer Opel truck
    240mm Howitzer Barrage Swapped with TOT

    Heavy Cavalry Company

    Riflemen Field Defenses
    Off Map Smoke Barrage
    Rangers
    Combined Arms
    M26 Pershing

    Infantry Company

    Riflemen Field Defenses
    Mortar HT
    M1919
    Time On Target replaced by 240mm Howitzer Barrage
    M7 Priest

    Mechanized Company

    Reserve Armor (M4 dozer upgrade & 76mm Sherman) 76mm Sherman
    Mechanized Groups (WC-51 & M3 Halftrack) Replaced by withdraw and refit ability allow to build wc-51, withdraw and refit AAHT/M20 for Greyhound, withdraw and refit Stuart for M10
    Mortar HT replaced by Raid Tactics
    Cavalry Riflemen
    Combined Arms

    Recon Support Company

    Raid Tactics
    IR Pathfinders replaced by observation kit
    Airdropped Combat Group replaced by AT paras
    M8 Greyhound replaced by "155 artillery"
    Cluster Bombs

    Rifle Company

    Easy 8 replaced by 105 dozer
    Riflemen Field Defenses
    Advanced Infantry Equipment (now offers M1 C/M9 A1 bazookas/rifle grenades for riflemen)
    Fire Up replaced by cover to cover
    WP Smoke Barrage

    Or one could add the defensive stance (hit the dirt) increasing far DPS as a timed ability

    Tactical Support Company

    M5 Halftrack
    M1919
    P47 Recon Run
    P47 Strafing Run
    Calliope

    Urban Assault Company

    Urban Assault Kits now provides fire up/incendiary grenades to riflemen flamer to RE
    M4A3 Assault Package WP for Sherman/Scott
    Rangers Assault enginners
    Cover to Cover Off Map Smoke Barrage
    Calliope

    Or one could add a version of UK that target ambient builds.

  • #11
    6 days ago
    TremozlTremozl Posts: 322

    Would really like to see M10 Wolverine get a buff, I never see anyone use this unit.

    More health and/or superior firepower with adjusted cost would be ideal.

  • #12
    6 days ago
    KiethSomataw99KiethSoma… Posts: 100

    Suggestion for the M26 Pershing: instead of lower health and damage received, give the Pershing Veterancy 1 ability: Vehicle Self-Repair. Spend 60 munitions and the Pershing will repair itself for 15 seconds, weapons and movement disabled by this ability for the duration. Still reduces its reliance on Rear Echelon Troops for repairs.

  • #13
    6 days ago
    KiethSomataw99KiethSoma… Posts: 100

    New USF Commander Idea:

    Armored Support Company
    A company that puts greater emphasis on American armor

    Abilities:
    M4 Sherman "Crocodile": 0CP, 320 MP, 105 Fuel, Medium Tank available from Battalion Command Post. Armed with a powerful flame projector mounted on its turret but cannot fire its cannon. Can be upgraded with a .50 cal Pintle MG. Vehicle Crew benefit from Grenade Packages, receiving Molotov Cocktails upon research complete.

    Combined Arms: infantry and vehicles coordinate with each other to provide buffs.

    Time On Target Artillery: artillery barrage lands on the area within quick succession.

    Allied War Machine: 10CP, 200 Munitions, for a duration, up to 2 of your light or medium USF made vehicles that have been destroyed (must be along with its crew and abandoned doesn't count) can be replaced with the same type at no cost. If the vehicle is destroyed, a unit charge is accrued and after a period, the replacement vehicle equivalent can be spawned to the battlefield if you have enough population space.

    M26 Pershing: same heavy tank from Heavy Cavalry Company, but isn't affected by Allied War Machine.

  • #14
    4 days ago
    GoforGiantsV3GoforGian… Posts: 28
    edited April 8
    With Some play with Beta Patch. USF mechanized company was Clearly Doomed.

    Not the Fair nerf. With removing Reserve armor. It was just a Damn-Commander-Killing. Nerf.

    Never think about to nerf 76mm sherman to 14pop and deleting Reserve Armor's 75mm sherman Dozer Blade upgrade.
    Nerfing Combined Arms is Damn enough.
    Relic Already 'Killed' WC51 'Dodge' and Mechanized Company's pick rate is heavily Dropped.
    If nerfing reserve armor and Combined Arms both too. Then You just Throwing an attractive commander into Grave.
    Resonable Nerf or Buff can be thought.
    But that's overnerfing. This Patch is just killing the most attractive points of mechanized company. This can be just Hateful-Nerf to Just Kill a Commander.

    Easy Eight has been slightly better. But needs some more.

    Easy Eight is a improved sherman with all parts.
    So I suggest Buff Easy Eight's reload time 6.0~6.6 to 5.4~6.0
    And Its speed 6.1 to 6.6 and its Acceleration 2.1 to 2.4.
    Penetration 200/165/155 to 205/185/165.
    As the introduction of UI screen. Make Easy Eight right as the Pinnacle of the Sherman.

    Aarmor company is still mot very high Use.
    Reduce the M10's Target size Lower than Shermans. Around X17~X19
  • #15
    3 days ago
    StrategosStrategos Posts: 6

    I think it's important that it is the public what kind of player you are, i.e. team games or 1v1, whether you play a lot or not. Otherwise one would not recognize the writer's motives. To me, I haven't actively played 1v1 for a good 1 year. But follow the tournaments and often watch 1v1 games in spectator mode, I know the current metas. In my day I was top 100 with all factions. I still play team games with friends from time to time (4v4) so ​​we're around the top 50. In addition, one should express my thanks to the people from the community who update, patch and balance the game. Since they are not paid for it and they sacrifice free time for it, one should not forget that. Hope my English is not too bad :)

    Mechanized Company
    With the loss of the dozer blade upgrade, the doctrine loses its usefulness as compensation I would put the mortar halftrack together with the truck in a passive ability (nobody needs the half-track vehicle to come out or stay inside anyway). Fill the empty command slot with the Phosphor Barrage from the Rifle company. Since you mostly build Shermans and then try to rush because you don't have an offmap in the doc (truck has one but usually doesn't survive that long), paks are a thread, the offmap fit in the playstyle.

    Armor Company
    Together with the buff of the bulldozer, the docs should at least be played more often in team games. So that the value is increased and maybe the doc is playable in 1v1, I would suggest a change to the M10. The M10 should be a rush tank, that means it has hardly any penetration at long range but high damage output. The M10 already has a good standard speed and the ability to do so. The damage should be around 240 (KT damage). However, since the penetration should be so small, it has to come to the side or very close in order to cause damage. So that the tank is not spammed in team games you have to increase the cost to 100 fuel and the popcap to 12 (Guideline). In addition, the tank should have 400 hit points (T70, go down with 3 shoots).This also applies to the British M10.

    240mm Barrage
    It looks very nice compared to the railroad artillery.

    Cavalry Riflemen
    Yeah why not.

    Combined Arms
    Compared to the other ability (Radio Silence, Valiant Assault, For the Motherland), the buffs are good and the ability is not too expensive.

    Fired Up
    Right direction (Sprint 1cp), reduce the cost to 10 mun and the duration to 5s, to bring the ability in line with sprint.

    Heavy Cavalry Company Smoke Barrage
    Yeah why not.

    IR Pathfinder Barrage
    Nice too see that change.

    M26 Pershing
    In most games you have a lot of ammunition available with the doctrine that you don't use. As one does not like to build a second echolon the Pershing should have self-repair (Okw stats). Otherwise the changes look good.

    M4A3 Sherman 105mm Dozer
    The changes are going in the right direction. But why not the same stats ​​as the Brumbär? Bulldozer is bound to a Commander.You have to tech and build just like the Brumbär.

    M4A3 Sherman Calliope
    The change is good because you should be punished if you don't take care of the Calliope. However, the Calliope should be compared to the cost of the other rocket arty.

    M4A3 Sherman E8
    The changes are going in the right direction. The Easy 8 should be something like the Comet. To the changes I would add a little higher armor because it is too lightly armored compared to the Comet and Phanter (+10). Rest look nice.

    M8 Greyhound Canister Shot
    Yeah why not.

    Mortar Half-Track WP Shells
    Looks good as the cost of all flame barriers has been reduced.

    P-47 Strafing Run
    Yeah why not.

    Pathfinders (All Variants)
    Bonus against sniper is a good change a good positioning should be rewarded. In team games you often see bloobs with 3 Pathfinders. Since they have a high visibility you can see Mgs and then you can put Arty on it. Mgs are no longer used as counters. You can hardly attack this bloob with your own inf, since the Pathfinder have a high damage output both in longer range and closer range. The snipe passive ability where every model can be snipped under 50% increases their fighting strength. You also have 2 weapon slots (bars).
    The damage should be reduced to close range (weaker in the early game) and a maximum of 2 squads should be available. The strategy should only allow Pathfinder to do this, but it reduces the bloob strength.

    Rangers
    There is no reason why you shouldn't upgrade the Rangers because Thompsen are very strong or the 3 elite bazookas. But the changes are fine as they can allow for a different style of play.

    Rear Echelon Rifle Grenades
    Good to see that these skills are no longer a auto ability. A UI icon for the Echolon Squad would be good that you can see which squad is upgraded. In addition, you should increase the strength a little bit, but also the cooldown.

    Reserve Armor
    The upgrade made the Sherman extremely strong in terms of survivability. What could be very annoying, especially in 1v1. The 76 Sherman is good as it is.

    Rifle Company Advanced Infantry Gear
    The change with the receive accurancy is good. However, as with the Sturmpio, the flamethrower and the Mieneswipper should be possible together.

    Rifle Company White Phosphorous Barrage
    Yeah why not.

  • #16
    3 days ago
    ArsArcanumArsArcanum Posts: 1

    With the upcoming commander update i feel this is the time to say this:

    USF currently doesn't have a sniper unit, the closest thing to a sniper is pathfinders. And pathfinders are commander exclusive units.

    Now there are 2 artillery units in the core USF army, the mortar and the light howitzer. Occupying pretty much the same role.

    I propose moving pathfinders to non-commander exclusive unit replaces the light howitzer, and make the light howizer a commander exclusive unit instead.

    Some adjustments of their abilities, performance, cost may be required, for example:
    Pathfinders: give them a more sniper-like role (1 man squad, one hit kill), can build beacon if you pick Airborne company, etc.
    Light howitzer: give them larger aoe supression, armor piercing rounds ability, etc.

  • #17
    3 days ago
    GoforGiantsV3GoforGian… Posts: 28
    M10 to 3 hit 400 HP tank?
    Then StuGs still 560? Don't Speak Damn shit.

    M10s and Stugs are positioned in Divable. Cheap 50Range Tank Destroyer based by Medium Tank's Hull and Both consumes 10pop. Not like Light tank Based-Hull SU-76.
    Both StuG and M10 can be divable. But why 'only' M10 must get nerfed?
    And M10's Target Size is ridiculous now.
    Its concept was mobility Dive. So last days. Its target size was smaller than sherman. But X22 now is Bigger than Shermans.
    Its Target size must be reduced as X17 as same as StuGs.

    And You know. StuGs have Higher DPS than M10.

    Reserve armor nerfed to only make 76mm sherman? Silly Update.
    That will clearly kill a commander.
    Annoying?
    You know. Paks and Raketens can penetrate sherman, Jackson and M8A1 100% at all range.
    But even Panzer 4 at V0 can bounce 17~30% of 57mm AT's shells. And even Blitzkrieg at V1 and Skirts at V2 Reduces more.
    Panther and brumbar is also Harder.

    When the Dozer is on. Its penetrate rate reduces 100% at all range to 97~90% from Pak. And 93~87% by Raketen.

    That Little 10% of bounce rate is that annoying? Just tell Relic to kill entire USF.
    If some Annoying Ostheer's Sherman Survivality seems OP. Then All of German Tank Armor can be OP.
    Mechanized Company's Dozer blade must be preserved and That little Survivality rate increasing is just a small Gasp for USF. And Mechanized company is Only Company with a Brawl Fight. It means Mechanized Company uses many Shermans. And make a good Stage for PaKs and Panthers.
  • #18
    2 days ago

    New Patch Idea seems Better. but Still I hope Reserve Armor of Mechanized Company must be Preserved as same as now.

    If you Just increased Dozer blade Cost Wasn't a big Harm. but Just Deleting Harmed Diversity of USF medium tanks. and If 76mm Sherman is Less used. then Buffing 76mm Sherman was Right way. not Stealing Dozer Blade Upgrade.

    Last Patch Killed WC51 'DODGE' Truck and It critically Reduced Mechanized Company's Pick Rate. and even Nerfing both combined arms and Reserve Armor? maybe no one will pick Mechanized Company.

    I thought Mechanized company get nerfed its Early time and slightly buffed Late time because of its Low Jackson Use rate. but there was a Heavy Commander Killing.

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