Panzergrenadier rebalance

#1
1 week ago
If you give pgrens panzershreks, their AI potential gets lowered. But if you will blob pgrens with shreks, they still will do lots of damage to infantry, as in this blob they wiil have a decent number of StG44's.

My suggestion:
Panzergrens will initially have Kar98k's equipped, but they can be upgraded with StG's (for free?) OR panzershreks, not both. This will make them more vulnerable to infantry when upgraded with shreks, and shrek blobs won't be effective in AI term at all.

What you guys think?

Comments

  • #2
    4 days ago
    C3ToothC3Tooth Posts: 910

    They're fragile for their cost compared to other Elite, They likely have to retreat the most.
    Any model drops means they losing AI, which high chance of dropping Shreck for enemy to pick

    I think they needed that bit of stg since Gren have no chance against 5men RM double Bar, 5men IS double Bren, 6men Para double LMG...

  • #3
    3 days ago
    FelinewolfieFelinewol… Posts: 684

    @Kotanys said:
    If you give pgrens panzershreks, their AI potential gets lowered. But if you will blob pgrens with shreks, they still will do lots of damage to infantry, as in this blob they wiil have a decent number of StG44's.

    My suggestion:
    Panzergrens will initially have Kar98k's equipped, but they can be upgraded with StG's (for free?) OR panzershreks, not both. This will make them more vulnerable to infantry when upgraded with shreks, and shrek blobs won't be effective in AI term at all.

    What you guys think?

    Although I have no love for Axis stuff, they're actually the Penal/Riflemen of the Wehrmacht.
    reducing them to bolt action rifles means we'd have to reduce USF riflemen and SOV penals to bolt rifles.
    Then upgrade them to SVT/Garand, OR anti-tank rifles/Bazooka (and drop the BAR/M1919A6)

    Your suggestion would hard-nerf the allies by default.
    Just trust me, you don't want to go there.

    As for C3Tooth : They're 20% harder to hit, I think, when they get vet 1 and are near a vehicle :)
    Otherwise, you are correct.

  • #4
    1 day ago
    DST85DST85 Posts: 2

    Hornestly i never liked them in this awkard kind of cross-breed style. Would like to see them reworked in a way of a more standard, pure breed, mobile AT unit with mediocre short range AI cappabilities. Equipped with 3 MP-40, only 1 Shreck (but with 30% more power ) and a variaty of upgrades to buy like camoflage, smoke and a sprint maybe, for setting up ambushes. That would make them feel more like a real frontline Tank-hunter unit to me.

  • #5
    1 day ago
    ARMYguyARMYguy Posts: 850

    @DST85 said:
    Hornestly i never liked them in this awkard kind of cross-breed style. Would like to see them reworked in a way of a more standard, pure breed, mobile AT unit with mediocre short range AI cappabilities. Equipped with 3 MP-40, only 1 Shreck (but with 30% more power ) and a variaty of upgrades to buy like camoflage, smoke and a sprint maybe, for setting up ambushes. That would make them feel more like a real frontline Tank-hunter unit to me.

    What you described is already in the game. It is called Stormtroopers. Making pgrens stormtroopers makes no sense.

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