With All factions except DAK you can get Inf. cheaper or Armor (in case of USF with the Warmachine ability) 

And the problem is simple 25% is too mutch for only getting Command points or just spending 200Mp and 50 Fuel.

We need to turn down those Abilitys all you see in the Meta game is Luftwaffe,Indian Arty and the Inf. support Center.

I am suggesting we either turn them down to 10 % or we make them new abilitys or time based somethings needs to be done. 

Thx for reading

Always assumed the reason DAK don’t have any kind of reduction is due to how their upgrades work. Once they get those all in they’re pretty difficult to deal with. I agree though, it is a very strong ability. Particularly with the battlefield clearance refunds that both US and Wehr get on top of the reductions. 

The main problem is, these abilites are not counterable. If once researched, you get the bonuses for free and the enemy has no chance to deal with it.

I would prefer a solution comparable to Manpower Blitz from COH1 or Relief Infantry from COH2: You have to pay an amount of ammo to get either some MP back from your losses for a short duration or you get some Manpower instantly, like 250 MP for 100 ammo.

But right now, you have absolutely no chance versus theses cheats in late game .

Zapora wrote:

Each faction has strengths and weaknesses. In most aspects the DAK is stronger than the rest of the factions, so it is silly to talk about nerfing the USAF. 

DAK has so many op units that I don't even want to list.

When USF gets heavy tanks (pershing) you can possibly start talking about weakening its infantry.

I did not talk about nerfing USF.

I am talking about nerfing those Abilitys that make the Inf. cheaper.

That includes all Factions except DAK since DAK does not have anything to make their INF. cheaper.

Why well in 90% off all games you see The Inf. support Center, Indian Arty and Luftwaffe becouse of those Abilitys.

Heartless wrote:

Why well in 90% off all games you see The Inf. support Center, Indian Arty and Luftwaffe becouse of those Abilitys. 

Inf. Support Center probably has the biggest gap between it's alternatives though 90% might be a bit of a stretch. Those 3 are definitely favored I would say especially since they offer other good things on top of the Manpower Discount (SturmPios, Airburst Barrage, Etc.). In a game that largely determines winners by manpower management a passive reduction is probably always going to be too good (ISC is at least balanced by being delayed/tradeoff by upgrade cost but any game that drags on it becomes increasingly powerful).

They probably need tinkered with to lower the % savings or turned into some kind of active ability that has a timer with a delay so that you at least need some input/strategy to activate them when you are taking heavy losses.