aceridgey wrote:

Esxile wrote:

Greyhoud is inconsistent BUT has the canister shot with the special ammunition from mechanized center. The canister shot is highly deadly a point blank range. At your level it is unlikely players have faced it so they are careless. Sneak a M8 behind an HMG, canister shot, wipe, take the HMG.

The US mortar is atm on the OP side of mortar behavior, you should consider it and use it to its maximal potential, once vet1 take the buster shot and you'll at some point just depop their team weapon.

My BO at the moment is

T1 > 3 riflemen > mortar > mechanized center > T3 > greyhound > special munition > BARs > 2 atgun > riflemen > (optional) smoker shot or improved armor >

In my opinion if you decide to go Greyhoud and Chaffee you must go mechanized support and unlock some of the abilities. They're going to give a lot of punch to your tanks.

Greyhoud: Canister shot + smoke shot

Chaffee: APCR rounds + smoke pot

If you don't fall behind in fuel, you should still have enough fuel to call a Ez8 in time even after buying 2 of them + at least 1 upgrade + Bars + medics.

The challenge here, is most are using the IFC.

Without mechanised the t3 armour from US is still not amazing. The Chaffee is very weak against INF and the greyhound weak against armour. When the mardar hits the field at the same time as both, you're in trouble if you don't out micro. 

To OP, I don;t think US are in the best place atm, the Weapon Support Centre is in an awkward spot which then relies on certain battlegroups to build a balanced army. I think if you ask this question post balance patch then you may have more interesting responses. 

It's crazy, people come on the forums and say the exact opposite of what is blatantly true. Did you stop to consider that maybe you are not playing the matchup correctly? It is extremely clear that DAK/UKF is in a terrible spot right now, USF is the strongest faction (assuming you are abusing armored) and Wher is strong as well. 

Chaffee can 1v1 marder without health upgrade... Beside it, you can just skip light tanks and go for AT guns + bars and grenades or even parachuters in to shermans.

Nah, even special operations with the call in vehicle + flamer is useable. You can go for early double greyhounds + mark vehicle in to AT guns + whizbangs, thanks to skipping Bars and medical tent early. 

aceridgey wrote:

Esxile wrote:

Greyhoud is inconsistent BUT has the canister shot with the special ammunition from mechanized center. The canister shot is highly deadly a point blank range. At your level it is unlikely players have faced it so they are careless. Sneak a M8 behind an HMG, canister shot, wipe, take the HMG.

The US mortar is atm on the OP side of mortar behavior, you should consider it and use it to its maximal potential, once vet1 take the buster shot and you'll at some point just depop their team weapon.

My BO at the moment is

T1 > 3 riflemen > mortar > mechanized center > T3 > greyhound > special munition > BARs > 2 atgun > riflemen > (optional) smoker shot or improved armor >

In my opinion if you decide to go Greyhoud and Chaffee you must go mechanized support and unlock some of the abilities. They're going to give a lot of punch to your tanks.

Greyhoud: Canister shot + smoke shot

Chaffee: APCR rounds + smoke pot

If you don't fall behind in fuel, you should still have enough fuel to call a Ez8 in time even after buying 2 of them + at least 1 upgrade + Bars + medics.

The challenge here, is most are using the IFC.

Without mechanised the t3 armour from US is still not amazing. The Chaffee is very weak against INF and the greyhound weak against armour. When the mardar hits the field at the same time as both, you're in trouble if you don't out micro. 

To OP, I don;t think US are in the best place atm, the Weapon Support Centre is in an awkward spot which then relies on certain battlegroups to build a balanced army. I think if you ask this question post balance patch then you may have more interesting responses. 

Marder can't be everywhere and you can have your own Atgun in ambush. At the moment the problem with the M8, aside from micromanagement skill issue, is its pathing and inconsistency with its main gun vs infantry.

You shouldn't be thinking that because there going to be a marder you're not going to build a M8, that's not how you win games. It's the same thing that saying I'm not making mainline infantry because my opponent will build a HMG.

If you want to improve your skill in the game, force yourself to use the M8, you're probably going to lose many games first but then start getting better and winning your fight and hopefuly some day Relic will resolve the pathing issue making it even simpler for you to use it.

GeeeNo wrote:
US is about as strong as Wehr, with Wehr edging them out slightly I'd say.

I'm top 200 every faction.

US build is straightforward, Armor company, assault engie, Barracks, 3x rifles, Captain.

You can build an extra Assault engie, or focus on getting the infantry discounts early, or wait on the discounts until the motor pool is online. Get nades for stickies if they build a light vehicle, if it's DAK you just bully them with your infantry and numerical advantage to cap up the map, then shut them down with a chaffee which can even go toe to toe with P3's atm. It's way too strong.

Then just play the Barracks/Motor pool techs getting sidegrades and etc. until you call in the Easy 8 from the battlegroup. 

Yeah sometime it works, but when you playing against wehr from top 400-500 it quite difficult because they are playing in 2 machine guns and do it in very active and aggressive style

The main goal of USF player in 1 v 1  is to achieve the most favorable conditions for yourself in the early game. If by the beginning of the middle of the match you and the opponent hold the card 50/50, then for the USF player these are very unfavorable conditions

And when you play against a player from the top 400-500, they can easily cope with the initial push of the USF, thanks to two machine guns that just constantly move, crushing almost the flesh to the base, and flagging them is rarely possible, the more experienced the player, the more difficult it is to do it. And then there are 2 options, either they will press down to the base or it will turn out to get out, but the wehr will get so much time and resources that it will be too difficult to overcome it, since all the timings will fail

I know possible countermeasures, but in practice they don’t really help against high ranks, for example, a mortar, it’s difficult for them to catch machine guns that are constantly moving, especially considering that they immediately try to focus the mortar with infantry, and there are two such machine guns

I am sure that this can be dealt with, and now I wonder who has what tactics, especially against the aggressive two machine guns? Might be worth playing 3 pathfindes again and dealing with them with grenades, but I'm not sure that in practice there will be enough supplies for this in the early game

The feeling that the build order that I wrote above works against 500+ rank does not work against those who are higher than 500 or it still works and maybe I just play not good enough :))

What do you think?